Dan E Gray Designer & Community Manager

30Aug/112

Forums: The Final Word

Posted by Dan Gray

I've written a lot about forums, their problems, and how I would aim to fix them. Finally, after much deliberation and research, I believe I have a possible solution. First, I'll recap a bit:

Why Forums are Important:
Forums are archaic and unwieldy, but right now they are also irreplaceable. No other format can support the massive amount of content generated by a large community, or allow so many ongoing conversations with so many participants. There is no alternative.

The Problem:
The problem with forums is fundamentally linked to their strength: The sheer number of participants they can support. While everyone can have a voice, actually getting those voices heard amidst the roaring chorus of others is difficult. The most carefully written and  informative post will often be drowned out by hundreds of lesser posts, with little chance of recognition.  You lose the feeling of being part of a cohesive community.

The Solution:
For the sake of this explanation, I'll split posts into two categories:

  • Direct Response: A post directly in response to the thread starter.
  • Commentary: A reply to one of the following posts.

If you are interested in the topic of a thread, you are probably also interested in peoples opinions on that topic, so it makes sense to display the direct responses. Then we have commentary, which is a level of abstraction away from the topic (i.e. opinions of opinions) and far less likely to be relevant or interesting.

Step one of the redesign is splitting the two, so we can then work on filtering the commentary posts. That's actually pretty easy: You remove the generic reply box. In order to post in a thread you must first select which post you are replying to, be it the original post (for an direct response) or a following post (for commentary). It then displays at the top of your post who you are replying to, and notifies that person with a link to your response. The key incentive of this system is the notification, as you can be sure the person you are replying to will be aware of the response.

When viewing a thread you now only see replies directly relating to the original post (direct responses), with none of the usual tangential conversations or back-and-forth arguments. That's certainly a lot clearer, right? Obviously it's not a forum without conversation, so it's important to note that the commentary isn't removed - simply hidden. The next step is adding it back in a way that works for the user.

If you're familiar with Twitter, you'll know how it keeps the feed clean by hiding @replies unless you follow both people involved, and the system here would be similar: Essentially, you create a list of members whose commentary you are interested in seeing - probably because you value their opinion to some degree. All posts from these members would now show throughout the forum. What we have now is an incredibly simple method for improving the signal to noise ratio on large forums.

Members would find people to follow via four main methods:

  • Simply by reading direct responses, and recognizing members who post interesting content.
  • Checking reply notifications, and finding members they would like to continue to engage with.
  • Presenting new members with a list recommendations based off correlating flags in their profiles (specific interests, for example).
  • Presenting existing members with recommendations based on trends in other members lists.

The final step is to combine this filtering with standard social tools, such as follow recommendations and sharing, to encourage the development of micro-communities within the broader forum community. These individually tailored micro-communities would ensure that each user is getting appealing content by drastically reducing the amount of fluff they have to sift through to find it. These smaller social groups would also create stronger relationships and greater loyalty than a broad forum community of many thousands ever could. There's also fewer opportunities for friction and argument, lowering the work load on moderation staff. Finally, the system would also encourage people to put effort into their contributions as a way to attract followers and greater attention.

You now have a forum that can be scaled to any degree without destroying the sense of community, requires less work to maintain, builds stronger bonds amongst your community members, encourages constructive and intelligent posting, and makes those posts easier for everyone else to find.

In theory.

24Jun/110

Guild Wars 2 – Community Open House

Posted by Dan Gray

Yesterday, hailing from from various parts of the US and Europe, 15 excited individuals shared a single destination: Seattle, WA - home of the the ArenaNet offices.

What do they all have in common? An inexorable passion for Guild Wars 2, the community around it, and the developer. Oh, and an invite to ArenaNet's 'Community Open House' event.

1May/112

Building Communities with Momentum

Posted by Dan Gray

Many community builders make the mistake of setting up their ideal community site before a single member joins. This may seem like solid preparation, but it lands you in the difficult position of developing a community on a stagnant and potentially restrictive platform.

19Mar/111

The Gaming Industries Retreat from their Fans

Posted by lusionis

A disturbing new trend is developing in the MMO gaming industry in regards to developers and community manager's − a noticeable and marked retreat from their fans.

It's become more prevalent that community manager's are less interactive with their communities and have turned into a simple marketing tool. It's become almost common knowledge that a developer is simply there to code and meet that impossible deadline, rather then loving a game and participating with their fellow gamers. I don't believe this is the fault of the CM's or developer's themselves, but rather that companies want a tighter control over their message. With that control comes scripted messages, dissenting opinions silenced or marginalized... all the while telling their community that it's for our own good. It's done under the guise that they are providing a clearer message, that they are focusing their communication with fans.

3Mar/112

Positive Feedback Loop

Posted by Dan Gray

People will pay more for better services, providing the income necessary to invest in improving or expanding those services further.

Modern, innovative, web based businesses have become masters at implementing this feedback loop via smart monetization of their services, whether it's subscriptions, micro-transactions, one-off payments, sponsorships, advertising, or (more often) a blend of any number of those. It's generations ahead of the traditional product/service -> payment model. This is due, in large part, to the hugely competitive market for web services, where competition isn't restricted by physical boundaries.

16Feb/110

The Importance of Veterans

Posted by Dan Gray

Community 101: Your small core community is equally as valuable as your large peripheral community. Seriously, this has been an established and observably important principle of community management since the dawn of time. Every marketing exec. wants to say 'But it's impossible to quantify how that impacts sales figures!', but anyone experienced with online communities knows exactly the impact it has, and how important it is.

If your community seems directionless or inconsistently toned it's probably because you haven't done enough to encourage the formation of a hierarchy - and you should. It allows you, as the administrator or community manager, to much more effectively shape the community. One person can't effectively influence thousands on their own, which is why you grow a chain of influencers to proliferate your message.

  • Give some visual recognition to senior members who are particularly helpful and constructive. It rewards their efforts and contributions, and it makes them immediately apparent to new members as role models.
14Jan/1110

Unsucking Forums

Posted by Dan Gray

This post is a follow up to 'Forums Suck'. Thanks to everyone who commented on that post with additional insight.

Social media took off in the second half of the last decade, and revolutionized communication online. The cornerstones of this movement are now household names and it's easier than ever for anyone to create, share, and discuss content online. Brands are also prevalent, constantly finding inventive ways to piggyback on the viral nature of large social networks. Thus, in addition to personal relationships, social media has become the new home of customer relationships, tackling anything from significant announcements to individual customer responses.

In comparison, forums have remained pretty much untouched for over 10 years. Packages like vBulletin have wedged in a few web2.0-esque features, but pretty fundamental cracks are beginning to show. There just isn't the same focus on building networks, so each member soon becomes lost in the bustle of larger communities. However, these larger communities are probably the only reason forums still exist as such a major component of the web today: No other platform offers quite the same scalability, thanks to the straight forward categorization and navigability in the way it presents a massive number of interactions. That said, while it can cater to the size of large communities adequately, it's only in the shallowest sense. You just can't influence the flow of content enough to ensure that members are finding that which interests them most without adding endless layers of categorization and losing the ease of navigation. Conversely, and equally as bad, members wont feel like their content is being found by those it is intended for, instead being drowned out by sheer numbers.

So, how do we go about modernizing forums to solve some of these issues? What lessons can we learn from the success stories of the last few years? Where to start...

10Jan/110

Being Lazy with Social Media

Posted by Dan Gray

The field of online community management has changed significantly in the last few years with the growth of social networking giants like YouTube, Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook. Substantial new services spring up at an impressive pace, providing new and interesting ways to engage our audience. Not only that, but as part of catering for a modern audience these services are under constant pressure to revise and innovate. It's an inspiring landscape of entrepreneurs and enthusiasts, with the most successful entities dominating large chunks of the web as we know it.

11Nov/1018

Forums Suck

Posted by Dan Gray

They really do. As a discussion platform they are fundamentally flawed, and in this era of 'social media' they feel more and more like a clunky anachronism. Over the years we've developed methods to compensate for this, from advanced moderation/administration strategies to utilizing various clever plug-ins, and the functionality we've come to expect from a forum package basically limits us to expensive custom builds or high-end commercial solutions. But still, they suck.

Unfortunately there's nothing better right now, and forums are still the backbone of pretty much any large online community. How else do you provide a method for hundreds, thousands, or tens of thousands of people to get together and enjoy structured discourse?

18May/101

The Report Function

Posted by Dan Gray

It might be obvious to some of you, but it's something that I can't stress enough: The report function is an essential part of running a large, healthy community.

Unless you can afford to hire a dozen extremely competent moderators providing around the clock coverage, community self moderation is key. This is one practical application of that, and a vital one, for a few reasons:

1) It eases the workload.

On the larger of the two communities I run there are one to two thousand people online at any time. There's no way I can guarantee complete coverage, even with forty volunteer moderators. Even if only one in ten of the online members uses the report function I immediately have massively improved coverage and response time.

2) It gives the community a healthy way to fight back.

There is some satisfaction in hitting the report button on a post if you know it will be dealt with. Without that healthy form of retribution people might resort to returning fire - doubling the problem and the workload.

3) It spreads responsibility.

The life of a moderator isn't easy, as they can occasionally be the target of complaints. The majority of  complaints we see are about issues not dealt with in a timely manner, most of which can be countered with a simple question: 'Well why didn't you report it?'

 

Do whatever you can to encourage use of the report feature. Even over-enthusiastic members who report dozens of posts a day are still doing you a  favor if only a couple of those areworth dealing with.